Vol 35.35 - Vayechi 3 Spanish French Audio Video
(5751) Explanation of the story in Talmud (Tal. Taanit 5b) "R. Nahman and R. Isaac were sitting at a meal etc. one should not converse at meals etc. Jacob our patriarch is not dead etc as his seed will then be alive so he too will be alive"
The debate in that the actions of Torah and Mitzvot must specifically be in a natural manner.
Tal. Taanit 5b
R. Nahman and R. Isaac were sitting at a meal and R. Nahman said to R. Isaac: Let the Master expound something. He replied: Thus said R. Johanan: One should not converse at meals lest the windpipe acts before the gullet and his life will thereby be endangered.
After they ended the meal he added: Thus said R. Johanan: Jacob our patriarch is not dead. He [R. Nahman] objected: Was it then for nought that he was bewailed and embalmed and buried?-The other replied: I derive this from a scriptural verse, as It is said, Therefore fear thou not, O Jacob, My servant, saith the Lord; neither be dismayed, O Israel,- for, lo, I will save thee from afar and thy seed from the land of their captivity. The verse likens him [Jacob] to his seed [Israel]; as his seed will then be alive so he too will be alive.